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Dave Nobody Interviews David Yow from Scratch Acid...and Vice Versa

DY: So youíre working for Rank and Revue now?
DN: Yeah, theyíve been after me for a while.
DY: When did you move back to Austin?
DN: I moved back to Austin a year ago February.
DY: Oh my fucking god! So you were in the Austin/Houston scene like at the very, very beginning of punk rock!
DN: Yeah well I started out when I was like 12 or 13. I started sneaking out at night and going downtown to the Island because I had found punk rock or heard about punk rock, and then I heard there was a bar downtown. I would literally skateboard 5 miles to catch a bus to get downtown and then Iíd skate down to the Island and often end up sleeping upon the stage there. So then I started running away to Austin. I went to a show and there was a band called The Other Guys which featured Terri Laird (Texas Terri). And I had tricked 2 of the seniors, I had just started highschool, Iíd been there a week, when I met 2 new wave seniors. I started talking them into driving down to the Island and we went down there and we saw Terri. It was before Terri had breasts. So uhÖ
DY: OhhhhhÖ
DN: Yeah, back then. anyway, I was the only one up front while they were playing and my friends started teasing me ďYou know thatís a guyĒ and I said ďNo, thatís a girlĒ. Anyway after the show she came up  ĖI was cute and adorable- and was hugging me and everything and told me that if I ever came up to Austin that I could stay with her. So of course the very next weekend I convinced these guys to drive to Austin. We stopped at a flea market and I got an ID that said I was 18, which tells you how long ago that was, and the 1st place we went to was Raulís. We went in, I flashed my ID, it was no problem and it happened to be the weekend of the recording of the the Dicks/Big Boys LIVE AT RAULíSÖ
DY: Ahhhh...
DN: Very  happy coincidence there. And I spent the-uh, stayed with Terri that weekend, and thatís when my love affair with Austin began. Very shortly after that I was basically living in Austin.
DY: Yeah but then minutes later you moved to Seattle.
DN: Yeah well in 80í.
DY: Although at the time it didnít seem like it. At the time it probably seemed like an eon.
DN: At the time it seemed like an eternity. I consider those my Tom Sawyer punk rock days cause I was basically homeless, hanging out with Pat Black or Rob Buford, skateboarding around town between keg parties and fighting with frat boys. But it seemed like a very short period of time now but then it seemed like an eternity.Yeah because  I was with my lovely girlfriend Lisa. We lived on 31st and Speedway which later became a pretty notorious famous house. We turned it over to Tommy and Roger, who turned it into hardcore central. Anyways, her parents decided she was going to go to Cornish in Seattle and they were going to pay for it. So I just went along. I auditioned for Cornish just for fun, having never gone to high school but for a month and received full scholarships. So her folks were so happy about this they actually bought a house for us to live in which became the notorious Blane St. house where bands broke up, formed, died...people died. It was featured in the movie Hype, the very famous sea house. So we moved there in 83í and I went to Cornish about a year and a half before I got back in bands. I actually had an art show in Cornish that got so much press that I was offered the main spot at an international underground artist show. At that point I was like ďWhy am I going to school when Iím showing?Ē...which is always my excuse. But it pretty much started with the U-Men and bringing them to Austin for Woodshock which kind of ended my Cornish career and got me back on the road and into rock-n-roll, well punk rock, which saves my life every time.
DY: Nice!

DN: What about you? When did you move to Chicago?
DY: May 1st, 1988.
DN: When did Scratch Acid break up?
DY: I think it was the second half of 87í, sometime in 87í. Iím not sure of the day or the month.
DN: Was that a peaceful thing?
DY: Haha. Well I think the actual finish was we had some troubles on that last tour, specifically in Minneapolis, where we were playing at the Uptown. Rey and Brett got in a fight, and Iím not sure how it came to fisti cuffs. People that were there said they were swinging at each other but I donít remember that. But that was kind of like the beginning of the end of the end because it was sort of falling apart before that. But by the time we got home, that was it.
DN: And home was still Austin at that point?
DY: Yeah.
DN: So what prompted the move to Chicago?
DY: Rey Washam and David Sims had sort of joined up with Steve Albini, or David went up to Chicago to see if he was going to play bass in Rapeman with Rey and Steve Albini. And that worked out well. And I was ready to move so David and I moved up there. And at that point I was thinking that I would be Reyís drum tech and I would go on tour with them, but Albini goes, ďYeah well, we donít need a drum techĒ. So I got a job in a restaurant.
DN: And how long was that? That you were working in a restaurant and not playing music?
DY: Ummmm, it wasnít that long. It was probably six months or something like that. When Dave and I were still in Austin, he and Duane Denison and I had sort of fucked around doing some music with a drum machine, but we gave up on that when we moved to Chicago. And then we decided that maybe Duane should come up and we should record those songs that we wrote in Austin, just for the hell of it, with a drum machine. I think at the time it was just going to be a project, you know? Something to do. We didnít plan on actually forming a band, I donít think, at the time to when we actually got Mac and actually started a band. So I think it was about six months after I moved that we recorded that thing, the first record.
DN: Now your turn to ask me a question.
DY: In warm weather, how high can you weewee?
DN: In warm weather? Well unfortunately not as high as could say in my early days in Austin when I had a record amongst my friends for height and distance. I donít have that ability as much anymore but I have been working on it. I have been concentrating on improving my stream and it has been getting better. Perhaps next time I see you we could have a contest.

DY: I really donít do that too much anymore. I really like to walk and pee and check out  that spirograph pattern that you sort of end up with. When I was younger I could pee higher than any of my friends.
DN: Yeah, I was a very strong pee-er. I used to impress my girlfriend, especially behind Club Foot. Especially with how fast I could drink a 40 ounce. Oh and in Alaska peeing was always fun because there was snow.
DN: So was this reunion tour with Scratch Acid inspired by All Tomorrowís Parties?
DY: Yeah that was the impetus. Jeff Magnum from Neutral Milk Hotel wanted us to play. So we got asked about it and thought, okay, and figured it would be too much trouble to get together and practice and everything for one show on a dumb little island across the ocean so we decided to do some U.S. shows as well. But now thatís been postponed.
DN: Now that you have some U.S. shows as well, did that start out small, and then get bigger, adding more and more shows?
DY: I think it started out about the same size as it finished, but it might have gotten a little bit smaller, actually. Because the first show, which was in Atlanta, which was supposed to be at the Variety Theater, got moved to a different venue because of a lack of advanced ticket sales. There just wasnít enough interest to keep it in the place where it was originally booked, and it got moved to a smaller place. So instead of actually getting bigger and bigger it got (whispering) smaller!
DN: So where are you right now?
DY: Iím at home.
DN: So the Austin show is kind of a side thing of the tour?
DY: Oh no! Itís a real part of it!
DN: Do you have shows after Austin?
DY: Yeah, I think the shows we have remaining after Austin are Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, then Portland and Seattle, then weíre finished.
DN: What is your relationship with the people from Rabid Cat at this point?
DY: Wow. It doesnít really come into play. I havenít talked to Laura in just under a thousand years. I saw Stacy a few years ago. Thereís no more hard feelings anymore or anything like that and I think they wish us well, and we wish them well. But I think when we first moved to Chicago that we were pretty upset with them. But now itís all cool.
DN: Itís all water under the bridge. Weíre all old.
DY: Exactly.
DN: When was the first time you were ever pant-less on stage?
DY: Well, Iíll tell you. Scratch Acid was playing a show in Seattle at, I donít remember whereÖ

DN: Would it have been at the Central Ballroom with the U-Men? Or it was just the Central, not Ballroom.
DY: I think it was the Central, yes. A friend of mine, like David Duet (aka Nobody), told me they liked the U-Men, and that we needed to play with them in Seattle cause they were really big there. And I think we all had a really hard time believing him Ė them. And we were like, well why the fuck would anyone in Seattle care about us, you know? 3,000 miles away. But we got there to play that show and it was really really well-attendedÖto the point where people were actually sitting on the stage because there was no where else to go.
DN: Actually, there was no stage anymore. Or the stage had disappeared and it was just a mountain of bodies as far as the eye could see.
DY: Yeah. And we had just started this one particular song that has really long verses and I was standing there wearing this really nice double-breasted pin-striped silk suit and I canít remember his name, oh yeah, YOU pulled my pants down and at first I thought I should just sort of deal with it, and not to panic or react, that I would deal with it at the end of the verse. And I remember looking over and there were these two girls giggling and covering their mouths and pointing at my dick and it was minute, like the head was the size of my dick. So I stretched it out maybe a half inch. And I was really embarrassed and I remember telling David Sims about it and he said, oh donít worry, girls know that dicks are like accordions.
DN: A grower not a show-er, as they say.
DY: Well you know, it depends. Usually itís not that bad though. I donít know if it was the weather or my nervesÖ
DN: Well it was cold out. It was in the North West. That leads me to, what was your worst, or most memorable bad moment onstage? And what is your most pleasurable memory onstage?
DY: This might change depending on when you ask me. You might ask me two minutes from now and it might be different but the first thing that pops in my head was when the Jesus Lizard was playing in Boise, Idaho in a place that I think was called the Zoo and there were very very few people there. And it was an all ages show so all the drunks were in another room, they werenít even in the room we were playing in. So the 6 or 7 people that were there  a drunk frat boy and a drunk Indian or maybe he was a drunk Eskimo. Anyways they were heckling us, non-stop. All but like two people in the audience were heckling us. And I think it was the only time ever, that I just turned to the guys and said, do you want to just stop playing? I just didnít see the point. There were plenty of times where there wasnít much of an audience but weíd still give it our all, but I was just humiliated, and I thought there was just no point at all in continuing for these two idiots. But I think we actually did finish that show.
DN: I can relate to that completely, when youíre the guy out front taking it all. And your best? Or most pleasurable? Or funniest?
DY: I think the funnest was when Shellac asked me if I wanted to play a show as the Sex Pistols with them in Chicago for Halloween but being as theyíre a 3-piece, I was supposed to be Johnny Rotten. We rehearsed it, as if it were a part in a movie, for months and months and researched and watched films and videos and got my costume together and shit. And it was an absolute blast. I think that may have been the funnest show I ever played.

DN: I hope that was taped.
DY: Nope, it wasnít. Iíve seen one picture from it.
DN: Of course those are the shows that no one documents.
DY: I do have a recording of it on CD.
DN: Was your crucifixion documented?
DY: Oh, at Cabaret Voltaire? I donít think so. I know theyíre a lot of photographs but I donít think it was videotaped.
DN: Well, thereís images burned in the back of peoples minds I bet. What about psychedelics. Any psychedelic stage experiences, good or bad?
DY: I never really tripped onstage in any band I was playing in.I just didnít think it was a very good idea. But there was one time in Detroit when the Butthole Surfers played at the Greystone and I happened to have this antique copper trumpet with me and I was trippin balls, so they asked me if I wanted to play trumpet on this song with them. So I did that and it didnít work out very well. I donít think I did my part well at all.
DN: Unfortunately, Iíve had many psychedelic experiences onstage and most of them were unknown to me. Or they were forced upon me, as in I was dosed. But that was pretty common back in the old Cat Butt days. What do you see in the future for Scratch Acid right now?
DY: Well I hope that after the Seattle show on Dec. 18th...I think and I kind of hope that that will be it. We did a three show reenactment a few years ago and now weíre doing this. So I hope that itís finished when weíre done with this, til we go to the rescheduled ATP fest in March, which I think is kind of funny because I think it got postponed due to lack of interest. Which I can fully understand, not wanting to be on the west coast Atlantic side of England in December, and I donít think itís going to be that much better in March. Whatever it is, it sounds horrible. And then that will be the end.
DN: What are your feelings about coming back to Austin? Do you still enjoy Austin?
DY: Oh always. I love that town! I wouldnít want to live there again but I love being there.
DN: Austin loves you too. You know who else loves you? Seattle.
DY: Oh yeah, Thatís why, when we did those reunion shows about 5 years ago for the Touch and Go 25th Anniversary, originally we were just going to play Chicago but then we were like, well we have to play Austin, we have to play Austin. So we decided to do that and then it was my suggestion to play Seattle because theyíre the only other town that gives a shit.
DN: Well Seattleís always been appreciative of good, original, dissonant music to produce bands like the U-Men, Catbutt, and so on and so on. Letís see, whatís David Sims really like?
DY: In the last few years, Iíll tell you, heís definitely the winner of the most improved David Sims award cause he and I have always been sort of like, brothers. And weíve had difficulties, you know, in the past but for some reason or another, in the last several years he has become pretty saintly. He has the patience of fucking Ghandi. Heís really really remarkable and heís wonderful to be around. Iím pretty thrilled about it.
DN: Whatís David Nobody really like?
DY: He wins the most improved David Nobody award too. He used to be more of a brat, and now heís never a brat. I donít know, was he ever a brat?
DN: Oh, he was a brat.
DY: But who wasnít a brat early on?
DN: Yeah, we were all brats. If you could go back in time and change anything. Anything? What would it be?
DY: Wow.
DN: We could limit this to your personal situation, you know, not the world.
DY: I think, regarding my personal situation, that I would get rid of the bald spot.
DN: Haha. What is the music that you listen to the most right now? What are you playing the most right now?
DY: Right now? Thatís funny because I rarely listen to music. Iíve got my Ipod in my car so when Iím driving I kind of have a chuckle listening to whatever it wants to play. Comically enough, itís usually Scratch Acid, which I used to never listen to but nowÖ
DN: You ask me a question.
DY: If you could change anything, whether personal or in the world, in the past or in the future, what would you change?
DN: Thereís a lot of people I wish were still alive, especially a few people, especially one person. I would probably change the wayÖI wouldíve treated those people better. I would have the knowledge then that I have now, which is ridiculous. I wouldíve have treated people better than I did, but thatís really the only thing that I would change.
DN: What was your favorite childhood toy?
DY: Probably a towel that I would have wrapped around my neck like a cape. I donít know...my cat? My penis?
DN: Speaking of penises, is their some kind of group or association for penis Olympics? Or penis tricks? And are you involved in it?
DY: No. I, like so many boys, have come up with little wiener tricks of my own but most of the ones I used to do were shown to me by Jim Rose. Some sort of stage show called Puppetry of the Penis. Thereís something to be said about a roomful of people getting together and looking at eachothers cocks.
DN: Yeah, I remember when those guys came out I remember thinking that they were ripping you off. I also remember the night that you took my girlfriend and myself into the showers at the museum at the Seattle center and did an incredible display of penis tricksÖunbelieveable. You were doing penis tricks and the press was there trying to get pictures and you were keeping them out. That was awesome! That was the night that you got banned from Seattle.
DY: Yeah, that was the Ministry  tour.
DN: When you inadvertently spoke in front of the fire marshall. How long were you banned?
DY: I think until he was no longer in office. The band broke up and, I think by the time we broke up we were still banned. I know we never played there again.
DN: He had just been elected. That was his first week on duty and he was out to prove himself. So then you went back how many years later with Scratch Acid?
DY: I think that Ministry tour was some time in 97í?
DN: That sounds about right.
DY: I think Scratch Acid came back in 2005, whenever that Touch and Go Anniversary was.
DN: So the Seattle ban didnít really affect youÖ
DY: No, we would have played there. We had shows in Olympia and Bellingham and stuff, when otherwise we would have played Seattle.
DN: So after the ban? I thought you broke up shortly after the ban.
DY: Uhh, about a year and a half later.
DN: Because I know that he said that if any venue had you, under any name, any band, with you yourself in it, that the venue would lose its right to congregate, it would lose its right to assemble, if your name was used under any format, or your person was involved under any name and in any formatÖis what local promoters told me.
DY: It was SO incredible, especially considering that I didnít even do what he claimed that I did!
DN: Well you know that the only other person, well thereís 2 other people that itís happened to besides you, Iggy Pop And Johnny Lydon.
DY: In Seattle?
DN: Well Iggy was banned, I believe it was because big Jim Norris threw an M80 into that big giant bass drum, and Hunt Sales I believe was playing drums at that time. And it started a fire and Iggy was blamed for it. He was banned for like 10 years though. He was banned a lot longer than you were. And now that Iím remembering I think it was Johnny Lydon that banned Seattle. HE banned Seattle, and then he wrote that song about Seattle.
DY: I havenít heard the song, all I remember is him saying (in British accent), ďIím not playing there!Ē
DN: I remember watching him play at the Paramount Theater, then getting to hang out with him and drinking beer all night. He was one of the nicest guys in the world. There were thousands of kids screaming up at the balcony, ďI love you Johnny!Ē and he kept screaming back, ďSo do I!Ē. Then he kept giving Lisa and me Heinekens and said, ďDo you want to see something really funny?Ē We said sure, he said wait here, and goes down the stairs and opens the door to where all those hundreds of people were, ran back up the stairs, he and the band run out the back door, jump into the van. First they destroy the dressing room. They totally destroyed the dressing room. Then those hundreds of fans run into the dressing room and start stripping it of everything they can, then security runs in and thinks the kids destroyed the dressing rooms. So he broke the mirrors, destroyed the dressing room, then ran out and let the fans take the blame for it. It was very entertaining and very funny. He also gave us his rosary, which was very nice. And we gave him our cat Pinnochioís rosary. Incredibly nice guy.
DY: My only encounter with him, he was not nice.
DN: Well thatís what I hear from everyone else. But Iíve always had that situation. Maybe I have a calming effect on assholes.So youíre back home temporarily and the next show is here in Austin?
DY: No the next show is in Dallas, then Houston, then Austin.
DN: Have you thought about what would your epitaph be?
DY: I have not thought about that. ďHere lies David, and heís not with us anymoreĒ.
DN: Have you ever been to the Hollywood cemetery?
DY: Oh many, many times.
DN: Have you seen Mel Blancís tombstone?
DY: Haha. Yeah, ďThatís all folks!Ē
DN: I thought that was good.
DY: Patty McDaniels right over there by Johnny Ramone, sorry, DeeDee Ramone.
DN: Itís DeeDee, right?
DY: Yeah. No! Johnny!
DN: Yeah, itís always stacked with beads and feathers and peoples demo tapes.
DY: Beer caps And guitar picks.
DN: So do you love L.A.?
DY: I do! I love L.A. more than Randy Newman does. Iím going to be here until checkout time I think.
DN: Do you still live in Glendale?
DY: No, I live in Silverlake.
DN: Thatís a nice area, up and coming I hear.
DY: A lot of people say that if you live in Los Angeles you donít walk anywhere. Well thatís just not true. I walk a lot. Within in a mile, there are a ton of cool restaurants and bars. We walk a bunch. We drive to some place then get really really drunk and then walk home.
DN: When I lived out there in Echo Park you used to guest bartend. Are you still guest bartending out in L.A.?
DY: I havenít done it in years. I havenít done it in at least two years.
DN: Almost as long as Iíve been gone. Is that fun, guest bartending?
DY: A little bit. It makes me nervous because Iím afraid that Iím not going to do it as well as I should. Iím afraid Iíll make some mistake or fuck something up, but usually itís fun. And the drinks are free and thatís my favorite price.
DN: What would you like to do that you havenít done? Right now, youíre pretty busy with your art, arenít you (http://www.davidyow.net )?
DY: Right now Iím really busy with acting. The artís on hold. I had this show in NY and after I got everything back Iím kind of taking a break from that. And now Iím focusing more on acting, trying to get parts in movies and stuff like that.
DN: Is there anything we can see you in at this point?
DY: Umm, thereís some old movies that are NetFlix-able  but theyíre not very good and the majority of the things Iíve doneÖIíve done about 20 $800 budget movies but now that Iím actually sort of vying for roles in actual major motion pictures that I want so desperately badly that I canít even find the words to tell you how desperately badly I want this partÖ
DN: Well, good luck with that.
DY: Thanks a bunch. In fact, I sent an email just this morning that I hope to get a response to soon so that I know whatís going on with this thing cause itís been months doing the 4 auditions for this thing and, god, I want it really bad. Really fucking bad David.
DN: Good. Iíll be thinking positive thoughts about that.
DY: Thank you.
DN: What about music in the future? Do you see yourself starting another band?
DY: No, I donít think thatís going to happen. I think that on occasion Iíll do collaborations with friends from time to time but I donít think Iíll ever Iíll be in a band full time again.
DN: How does it feel being back on tour again? Does it come back naturally? Do you love it? Or is it horrible?
DY: I tell you what, I do love it but something has changed between now and 2 years ago when the Cheaters rolled through because when the Cheaters did it, I was 49 years old and it was a little bit rough but it wasnít that hard. And I enjoyed it but I had been going to gym like crazy beforehand and trying to build up my stamina you know. and whatever, but now...
DN: Yeah, I thought itíd be firmer.
DY: What? Firmer?
DN: Yeah, the assÖ
DY: Oh, my satchel? Yes. And now that Iím 51, it was at our second show. We did Atlanta, then we did our second show and it was the 2nd or 3rd song and I felt like I was going to die. I just thought, Wow, Iím not going to make it, a quarter of the way through the set! So, on the rest of the tour I just got to the point where Iíve taught myself how to store up some reserve energy and not just go as hard as I can from the start. I think itís oscillating between just going nuts and not going as nuts.
DN: Yeah, Iíve been dealing with that a lot myself. Iíll tell you something thatís been working for me. Have you ever tried zip fizzes? Itís a powder that you pour into a drink and itís a major amount of B12 and vitamins. It gets you through a set, and Iím addicted to them now.
DY: Zip fizzes?
DN: It comes in this container, you add water. Itís a powder, and itís loaded with B12. Never do 2. One will get you through an hour, an hour and a half set, and it gives you all the energy in the world. Itís so great.
DY: Zip as in zipper? And scissors? As in what you cut paper with?
DN: No, zip fizzes. Fizzes as in it fizzes up when you add the water in.
DY: Aw, aw! Iíll look for that.
DN: I donít think it has any caffeine in it at all but it gets you through the set. And I need it too because I too, am getting old. So the art is on hold right now but do you see it rearing its head again?
DY: Oh yeah, yeah. If I can get this acting thing to take off, Iím hoping and Iím praying that that will pay the bills. Any down time I have will be spent on the art because, as much as I enjoy the art, it never comes anywhere close to paying any of the bills. I havenít done any of the math but I sold 5 pieces at my last show in NY but when you figure the pay out hourly, I donít know, itís probably like 30 cents an hour.
DN: Haha. I totally understand.
DY: I mean, itís so arbitrary.
DN: I mean you make it to sell it, but then you price it outrageously cause you donít really want to sell it, you just want to show it off. If I make art and say okay this is to sell, but when you put a price on it and consider the amount of imagination and the amount of stress, the simple things, the cost of supplies, but then your hours spent, and the agony and the stress and the deadlines, its impossible to put a price on.
DY: And by standard gallery operating procedure the gallery takes 50% of that. Itís just really difficult, especially in this economy. I know I have friends out here that in the past have done pretty well, making like 6 figures with their art, up until a few years ago but now they have to wait tables to supplement their incomes.
DN: I remember back when you guys were rehearsing for this upcoming tour, you and I did some powerful drinking at that time.
DY: Yes we did.
DN: And how was that first night onstage after that session of drinking?
DY: Well, it was fine. The funny thing was that that entire trip, from the time I left home to go practice in Austin, then return home before we left to do the shows was a total of 3 weeks. I had more than I should have to drink than I should have every single night of that 3 weeks. Iím actually kind of proud that we pulled through, especially since we played so many shows all in a row.
DN: Well, itís called stamina. And we were born into it, or its ingrained in us or something. Did you happen to see the fight at the Halloween party?
DY: On the 30th? Yeah, at the Long Branch?
DN: Yes, did you happen to see the incident at the end of the party?
DY: Iím sure that I did, of course I have no recollection of leaving there. Iím pretty sure that Bufx gave me a ride home but I donít remember.
DN: Well I was jumped by a couple of guys, and left there covered in bloodÖof course, it was all my blood.
DY: Where were you jumped?
DN: On the patio! We had finished our set and the band after us was playing their set, and were apparently pretty bad, which I didnít notice. I thought they were good cause I was properly wasted and I was walking out the door to sit with some friends, with you actually. And 3 or 4 dudes walked up, young hipsters that started making comments about how pathetic it is to see old dudes that think they can rock. I was caught up in a conversation and didnít notice what they were saying til someone nudged me and said, hey, I think theyíre talking about you. So I said, okay what is it? What do you want? And they said why were you fucking with our band in there? And I said, your band? They said yeah, those were our friends. I found out later that, first of all, the band denies any knowledge of them. They were friends of mine, I booked them, this is my party, and my band just played. So the guy says, yeah I saw you guys, you sucked. And according to some people, I pushed him in the chest and started to walk away and according to other people, I punched him. Either way, the guy on the side of me sucker punched me right in my Elvis  glasses and it cut a ring in my eye and I started profusely bleeding, tables went down, glasses got knocked over and broke, everyone thought the blood was from that, the whole patio erupted into a fight. They didnít realize that they were messing with the wrong guy. 3 of them took off running, a 4th one and I went out rolling in the street, it went on and on. And you were right thereÖfor all of this!
DY: I have no recollection of any of that, whatsoever! And the next day was when we left, and I know there was no blood on me. I was probably hiding under the chair or something like that.
DN: Do you have another question for me?
DY: What youíd have for lunch?
DN: Well, I didnít eat anything David because Iím in paint mode, and when Iím in paint mode, I donít eat. I eat once a day and its usually in the afternoon. Itís usually painting, painting, painting, Pabst Blue Ribbon, painting, painting, painting, Pabst Blue Ribbon, paintingÖAnd lots of coffee. I have a pretty regimented diet of protein and vegetables.
DY:  Yeah, thatís what my girlfriend and I do, meat and vegetables. We try to stay away from carbs and all that.
DN: Yeah, try to stay from carbs and dairy, except for an occasional pizza.
DY: Yeah, you canít knock pizza.
DN: Are you going to be a happy old man?
DY: Yes! I am a happy old man!
DN: Are you looking forward to that? Getting old?
DY: Uhhhhhhhhhhh,,,,,,,ummmmmmmmmm, yeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh? I suppose. I hope not to be there any time soon, but I will be.
DN: Whatís the favorite material object that you own?
DY: I donít know. Itís probably the refrigerator, my computer or my bicycle.
DN: Whatís your favorite food?
DY: I donít really have one. It used to be Mexican. Itís too hard to pick, too hard to pick.
DN: Do you have a favorite song?
DY: Haha, no! But I did karaoke at Delilahís the other night and knocked it out of the park.
DN: Whatís your favorite color?
DY: Clear.
DN: Haha, Very good, very good. Who is your favorite interviewer?
DY: David Nobody! And David Letterman.
DN: Ohhh! Have you been on Letterman?
DY: I havenít been interviewed on Letterman, but Iíve been on the show.
DN: What, in the audience?
DY: When Jesus Lizard played Lalapalooza, I guess Paul Schaffer and David Letterman were talking about Lalapalooza and they showed us for about 2 seconds.
DN: Speaking of celebrities, do you ever get starstruck?
DY: Iíve been nervous around some famous folks. Iíve always had a deep respect for Nick Cave and weíve spent a fair amount of time hanging out. But for some reason the last time the Grammys came around, I think it was back in Jan., Nick and I were hanging out and for some reason I got really nervous. I donít know what the fuck was wrong with me.I felt that every thing I was saying was stupid, or had been said before. Him and Col. Sanders.
DN: Col. Sanders? Huh, Iíve had the same thing with Mr. Cave. I mean, weíve barbecued, heís drawn in my journal, weíve told stories, and then other times, I canít even venture near him. I donít know why that is cause heís a very nice man.
DY: I think what it was was we were talking about movies and I was talking about John Hawk in a movie where he was totally bad ass, and Nick was saying that he didnít like that movie. He felt like it wasnít harsh enough.
DN: Well I can see him saying that.
DY: Yeah, but thatís ridiculous. If that movie isnít harsh enough, what is Deliverance? A Disney flick?
DN: Did you guys do any live recording on this tour?
DY: No, we havenít.
DN: When are you getting to town?
DY: A week from today, I think the 5th?
DN: If you could be any kind of animal, what would you be?
DY: A Little Buddy.
DN: Hahahahahaha! A little bunny?
DY: No! Little Buddy, my cat! Little Buddy! Yeah, a little bunny. Who the fuck wouldnít want to be a cute little bunny?
DN: So Little Buddy is your cat? How old is Little Buddy?
DY:  6 in march.
DN: My Chihuahua, Cactus, just turned 14.
DY: Wow.How much longer are we gonna do this?


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